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 ES Discussion Question #4, What Johnny brings with him
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Posted: Jan 15 2007, 12:42 PM


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Originally Posted by Karen
on 12/09/04 at 06:44 AM

ES premiered 14 years ago this week. Since 1990 Johnny has played so many wonderful and remarkable characters. What is it that Johnny brought to this role that continues to make this film so special?

We know he likes to play "out casts"...what else can you say about Edward, as Johnny saw him, and/or what about being an outcast was different in this role than some of his others?


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Jeppody

I truly believe that Johnny is a gentle soul, and I think that shows in this film. Apart from the odd time when Edward 'lets rip' as it were, he is purely childlike, gentle and caring. I cannot imagine anybody else ever being able to take on Edward and portray him so well.

As for the attraction for Johnny to play the part, well, to me this is a Beauty and the Beast meets Frankensteins Monster film. We know Johnny liked Horror stories from an early age, and in an article I read recently, he said that there are lots of Fairy Stories told to his children, because they show right from wrong. If he has always felt this way, then the mixture probably had an irresistable pull for him.

Just guessing, but thats how I see it.


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I agree with Anne- he has a gentleness, and a vulnerability that he is not afraid to bring to the screen. This is something that continues to this day. In the Secret Window commentary, David Koepp makes a point of how Johnny isn't afraid to look scared on film, and I think this is part of the same trait- he doesn't care if he doesn't come off as "manly", in the way so many Hollywood actors would. I think this is a big part of why we admire him so much!!

As for what Johnny saw in the part, I think that besides seeing a kinship in the character as an outcast, he really needed to play a role that was physically unattractive (or at least tried to be... it didn't work, Johnny ) I know he was pushing to have as many scars as possible, and I think he really felt he needed to do a role early in his career that wouldn't rely on his pretty boy image. Cry-Baby had tried to erode the teen idol image, but he was still a cutie-pie in that movie, and I think Edward gave him the chance to prove that he can act, and not just sit and look good. And man, can he ever act!!

I love Anne's point about Johnny's love of horror, too. I am also a big horror fan, and that was one of the reasons I loved Edward so much, so long before I became so obsessed with Johnny. And maybe it's one of the reasons I love Johnny so much, too


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Karen

Oh Cathy...........LOL "obsessed" is such a strong word. LMWBGO


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MerryK

Good Evening Ya'll have stated pretty much my same feelings. I think Johnny looked at this role.. and like he has stated .. never actually believed he would actually get picked to play the part of Edward. I'm sure he saw it as an amazing challenge. A part that wouldnt be dependant on his looks. But like Cathy stated.. it didnt work Johnny There wasnt a whole lot of verbal lines for him.. so he knew he would have to draw from a more physical .. emotional side for his portrayal of Edward.... which I'm sure he just relished that idea.

I agree with what Anne said.. Edward was very childlike.. innocent.. a child in a mans body.
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obsessed" is such a strong word.

who's obsessed


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Karen

Y'all are doing such a great job here! Awesome thoughts!


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deppmania2003

Can't agree more Karen.
I had a thought that he would bring something in it too that had a message. Remember he had that not so great experience with 21JS where they wanted to let people think they were honest to preach that drugs and so on were not good and at the same time they did it them self (as I read in an interview once) So I think he saw the honesty in this one and wanted to bring that out too.


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sally2jack

I agree with the gentleness and innocence. And also I think the humanity and honesty. So wonderfully ironic that the most true, humane, connectable character in that world is the one who isn't human at all. And though the writer gives us that idea, johnny's performance was like someone being given some finger paints and butcher paper and using that to create the ceiling of the sistine chapel.

I remember articles saying Tom Cruise was Burton's top choice for the role initially, and trying to imagine him in the role of Edward is almost painful. I can't think of another actor who could have topped johnny's performance, or even equalled it.


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I can't think of another actor who could have topped johnny's performance, or even equalled it.

Me either!!


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anono

When you read articles about Johnny doing this role he says that he knew this character, he could relate on a personal level. I'm sure everyone of us has felt that at one point or another in our lives when we said we could truly understand what someone was going through what they felt, that pure empathy. Because he had such a strong reaction to this character from the get go I think he brought a realness to this character something very internal very vulnerable, and then the sadness of having to say good-bye to this character after the wrap up it makes his performance very memorable.


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