InvisionFree - Free Forum Hosting
Enjoy forums? Start your own community for free.

Learn More · Sign-up for Free
Welcome to JohnnyDeppReads!
BLACK MASS is filming now in the Boston area. We're getting lots of location photos so be sure to check in often! Who knows what we'll see today!


Register now on JDR! Registered members can see all new posts quickly and all areas of our community are open for all to see, you can also comment or share Depp news here on JDR!!

Join our community!
If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features.

Name:   Password:


JohnnyDeppReads - a place to discuss the news, books, plays, projects and materials relating to the works and interests of multi media artist Johnny Depp.

With respect to Mr. Depp we ask that no identifying images of his children be posted here.


 

 Discussion Point 4, When did he grab you?
jeppody
Posted: Jan 14 2007, 11:12 AM


Moderator/Admin


Group: Admin
Posts: 7,618
Member No.: 4
Joined: 30-November 06



Originally Posted by Karen 29th October 2004


Ichabod Crane is a legendary literary character whose story is told in Washington Irving's "The Legend Of Sleepy Hollow" and was first published in 1819, 185 years ago. And here we are talking about the story. Still.

Ichabod is a strange character at best and it sometimes takes a while for an actor to project the character into the story. In what scene does Johnny manage to convey to you his interpretation of Ichabod? When does Ichabod first take shape for you?





--------------------
user posted image
Made for me by Johnnydepplover. Thanks Sam.
jeppody
Posted: Jan 14 2007, 11:12 AM


Moderator/Admin


Group: Admin
Posts: 7,618
Member No.: 4
Joined: 30-November 06



MadScntst


Well, for me it seems to be right away in his first scene! From seeing his reaction to the drowned man, you can already see that he's a little bit squeamish and reluctant to get too close, yet determined to do his job. His officious tone of voice is also immediately noticeable. Then, in the next scene when he speaks about how important science is to him, you can sense his dedication to precision and technology to solve cases, and also that he wants to stand up to his superiors and take charge. So it really all seems to be there in his voice and his facial expressions, from the beginning.




--------------------
user posted image
Made for me by Johnnydepplover. Thanks Sam.
jeppody
Posted: Jan 14 2007, 11:13 AM


Moderator/Admin


Group: Admin
Posts: 7,618
Member No.: 4
Joined: 30-November 06



Cindy


What Cathy said is so true. Johnny did an excellent job of conveying all of Ichabod's characteristics right from the start. But Ichabod didn't really grab me until that first murder scene in the woods. It was his first real chance to use all of his knowledge and technology to help solve a murder. And Johnny just played the whole thing so beautifully. All of Ichabod's quirks, his little bit of snobbery, his squeamishness, his deductive reasoning. I just loved this scene in the movie, and it's the one that really hooked me on Ichabod.




--------------------
user posted image
Made for me by Johnnydepplover. Thanks Sam.
jeppody
Posted: Jan 14 2007, 11:14 AM


Moderator/Admin


Group: Admin
Posts: 7,618
Member No.: 4
Joined: 30-November 06



Jeppody


OK, I must have a one track mind, and it's in the gutter. I could have sworn the header said "WHERE does he grab you"!!!! So there I was daydreaming, and soaking the drool towel, and by the time I recovered Cathy and Cindy had answered exactly how I would have answered. Right from the very beginning. I don't think that there is another Johnny film that grabs me quite as fast as SH, you just 'know' him immediately.

Right, I'm heading back to my corner now, Sands is getting restless.

Oh yeah, I nearly forgot, Hiya Astrid, nice to meet you. This site gets really exciting at times, so stick with us and enjoy the ride.






--------------------
user posted image
Made for me by Johnnydepplover. Thanks Sam.
jeppody
Posted: Jan 14 2007, 11:14 AM


Moderator/Admin


Group: Admin
Posts: 7,618
Member No.: 4
Joined: 30-November 06



Ellen


Wow Anne....that's the best excuse I've heard so far for not answering the question! But now you've got me thinking about the header. Could you pass the drool towel please?





--------------------
user posted image
Made for me by Johnnydepplover. Thanks Sam.
jeppody
Posted: Jan 14 2007, 11:15 AM


Moderator/Admin


Group: Admin
Posts: 7,618
Member No.: 4
Joined: 30-November 06



JP


Y'all beat me to it. I do think that we get a bit more insight later in the movie, though. I'm thinking in terms of him using young Masbeth for a shield, as well as Katrina at the end. We know he is squeamish, but, dare I say it, he is also a bit cowardly.

Okay, Anne, I admit I read it as "where", too...........hmmmmmmmm






--------------------
user posted image
Made for me by Johnnydepplover. Thanks Sam.
jeppody
Posted: Jan 14 2007, 11:16 AM


Moderator/Admin


Group: Admin
Posts: 7,618
Member No.: 4
Joined: 30-November 06



MerryK


I get a hold of Ichabod pretty much right from the beginning too. He's determined about his job.. but yet there are certain aspects of it that dont quite settle with him right.


QUOTE
I'm thinking in terms of him using young Masbeth for a shield



That part just cracks me up. It does show what a bit of a coward he is. Here, Ichabod has the gun .. and most people would have the child stand behind him.. but here he has him in front of him.. pushing him onwards.. lol






--------------------
user posted image
Made for me by Johnnydepplover. Thanks Sam.
jeppody
Posted: Jan 14 2007, 11:17 AM


Moderator/Admin


Group: Admin
Posts: 7,618
Member No.: 4
Joined: 30-November 06



MadScntst


It cracks me up too! In addition to cowardice, I always thought there was a bit of class issues involved in that, too. Masbath was a servant, and Young Masbath has grown up accepting his station in life "I am your man, sir." Ichabod takes full advantage of this-- he pretty much orders Young Masbath to help open the coffins, and to kill the spider, and there is the poor kid again, acting as a human shield. I think Ichabod is a bit of a snob (and you get that right at the start, too-- "Some help here!" Very demanding! And then of course you see it at the very end, too, as Ichabod and Katrina go traipsing off while poor Young Masbath is weighed down by a ton of luggage!




--------------------
user posted image
Made for me by Johnnydepplover. Thanks Sam.
jeppody
Posted: Jan 14 2007, 11:18 AM


Moderator/Admin


Group: Admin
Posts: 7,618
Member No.: 4
Joined: 30-November 06



Deppmania2003


Hi Anne Nice to meet you too Boy I can see you are all so skilled in this The minute there is a question up, there are answers and/or opinions given. I have to learn a lot because normaly I have to think carefully about my answers and opinions. But Allas, he grabs me from second one in this movie. The expressions on his face are priceless and I think Tim was right to not let Johnny use any prostetics because that would've interfere to much with it.





--------------------
user posted image
Made for me by Johnnydepplover. Thanks Sam.
0 User(s) are reading this topic (0 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:
DealsFor.me - The best sales, coupons, and discounts for you




Hosted for free by InvisionFree* (Terms of Use: Updated 2/10/2010) | Powered by Invision Power Board v1.3 Final © 2003 IPS, Inc.
Archive

NOTICE: This site is maintained and updated by its owner, site moderators and fans of actor Johnny Depp, and is in no way affiliated with Mr. Depp, his family, agents or company. Copyrights and trademarks for the films, articles, music, books, photos and other promotional materials are held by their respective owners and their use is allowed under the fair use clause of the Copyright Law. Design, my original artwork or photography as well as JDR interviews and book club discussions however are copyright © 2004-2013 JohnnyDeppReads.com. Contact: admin@johnnydeppreads.com

Please note that JohnnyDeppReads.com is not associated with any other sites, blogs, twitterpages, etc other than the ones posted at the top of this page (JDR blogs, etc.). Please report any abuse to admin@johnnydeppreads.com