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 Discussion Question #16
captainjacksparrow
Posted: Jan 10 2007, 05:38 PM


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Originally Posted by Karen 26th April 2004

I hope that both versions of the play have this moving scene. The
one where Rochester tells Charles about the letters he received from
his father when he was five. This is a very short BUT pivotal scene.
What does this tell us about how Rochester has always seen Charles?
IS Rochester like his father? Tell us what you think, does this
explain Rochester's behavior?






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jeppody
Posted: Jan 17 2007, 08:40 AM


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SuzieboozieluvsJD


I think this scene is one of the most moving to me. He seems to have
very mixed emotions about Charles. He looks up to him as a father I
think but also hates him for taking his real father from him. I
definitely think some of his behavior is a result of this situation,
and I think he was resentful and tried to get back at him by
embarrasing the King every chance he got.




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Posted: Jan 17 2007, 08:40 AM


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JP


Unfortunately, this scene is not in my copy of the play. I only have
the end of Scene 10 between Charles and Wilmot. I will check the
book of letters that I have to see if there is any reference to this
and let you know what I find.




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Posted: Jan 17 2007, 08:41 AM


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Oh Karen, it's not in mine either. I'm starting to wonder if I'll understand the movie after all.




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Karen


QUOTE
I think this scene is one of the most moving to me. He seems to have
very mixed emotions about Charles. He looks up to him as a father I
think but also hates him for taking his real father from him. I
definitely think some of his behavior is a result of this situation,
and I think he was resentful and tried to get back at him by
embarrasing the King every chance he got.




Suz I think that is a big part of what's eating Johnny Wilmot! He
knew that his father preferred to be with the King. And not his
family. Then to have the same King want to be around you...well I
would think that Rochester couldn't help but want to get as many digs
in as possible.






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Posted: Jan 17 2007, 08:42 AM


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Karen


It seems that Jeffreys removed parts of the play for the Steppenwolf
edition. I need to see what all I can find out about that. I am sure
that the movie will make sense because we have all done our homework
and we have a good idea of what life was like for the Earl........

And remember that movies are written for audiences that know nothing
about the story at all, so we are just fine!!




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Anne


I did feel that Charles tends to talk to John as if he is his
indulgent but disappointed father. One thing that struck me
immediately though was a similarity with the conversation between CJS
and Will, you know the one, 'He was a bloody pirate, a scallywag' 'My
father was not a pirate', and the bit in the play where Charles says 'He was too busy getting pissed somewhere to be bothered with
you' and 'John says 'It, isn't true' then Charles says 'I knew him
and you didn't. He was a piss-artist'. Sorry, I know this is totally
irrelevant to the play, but I decided to say it anyway.




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Karen


Comparisons of a bit of the play to some other media are NOT
irrelevant, LOL, I did it a couple of days ago. And I think it's a
perfect way to make sense of things and to share thoughts and visions
with others. Especially since we are writing our opinions here and
not having a face to face chat. SOrta puts a shared memory or
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