Title: Rex Mundi #2 She's a climber
Karen - February 27, 2007 01:18 PM (GMT)
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http://www.rexmundi.netMaster Physician Genevieve Tournon
A gifted surgeon and politician. She has climbed high in French society and has recently been appointed personal physican to the Duke of Lorraine.
Genevieve and Julien used to be lovers. She is caught between her desire for advancement and her conscience. As much as he hates to admit it, she still has very strong feelings for Julien.
Rex Mundi discussion point #2 She's a climber
What purpose does Genevieve play in the Rex Mundi story? What is she after? Where do you think her loyalties are coming from? How does she add to the plot so far?
jeppody - February 27, 2007 01:49 PM (GMT)
Ahhh, the evil Genevieve. :lol:
I've only read the 3 volumes so far, so I am hoping that she picks a side and sticks to it really soon. Right now her ambition seems to have taken over, and even though she may not have realised at the beginning just how much trouble she would be causing Julien, she does now, and STILL she reports back to the Duke. ARRGGHH!!! Have you guessed yet that I don't like the woman? :lol:
As for the questions.
What is she after? Where do you think her loyalties are coming from?
She is after as much as she can get to help herself get the power she wants, and her loyalties are to herself.
What purpose does Genevieve play in the Rex Mundi story? How does she add to the plot so far?
I think she is enormously important to this story. She gives us background on Julien, an insiders view of the Duke, a love interest, and is the main connection between Julien and the Duke.
I still don't like her though. :rolleyes:
Anne x
Rose Sparrow - February 27, 2007 10:01 PM (GMT)
Without a doubt she's looking to make a name for herself at all costs and I agree that her loyalties are to herself, right now.
She plays a huge part in the story because of her past with Julien and she is a character you cannot trust. She is adding to the plot by playing a dangerous game between herself, Julien and the Duke.
And I'm not fond of her either after having read the first three.
nurseanne8 - February 28, 2007 12:07 AM (GMT)
I tend to agree with what has already been posted today-I just hope that Julien is not totally blind to her motives especially for someone so smart and she adds "meat" to the story as the beautiful untrustworthy female caught between the two male characters.
Karen - February 28, 2007 12:57 AM (GMT)
Jumping in here late today, as the real world got in the way. lol
I can't help but wonder "when" she will come to her senses, so to speak. And we know that authors always have a reason and a plan for every character. I can't help but wonder that the knowledge and onfo she is gathering now...just might not be used at a later date to help Julien?
nurseanne8 - February 28, 2007 01:23 AM (GMT)
herestoyou - February 28, 2007 01:32 AM (GMT)
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| What purpose does Genevieve play in the Rex Mundi story? How does she add to the plot so far? |
Definitely the love interest--love triangles always work well in stories! If we didn't have a female presence in these books, I probably wouldn't be that interested. I like that she's ambitious in a way, but she is definitely on the wrong side with Lorraine! :ph43r: She also is the "go between" between the "bad" guy and the reluctant hero of Sauniere.
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| What is she after? Where do you think her loyalties are coming from? |
Right now she's after power and she feels by aligning herself with Lorraine, she will achieve that power. On the other hand, Sauniere and his life reminds her of their earlier more idealistic time(?) together and I think ultimately she will be the key to saving Sauniere-----either by providing secret info. or possibly sacrificing her life for his.(That always makes a good story, too.)
An aside---Anne,(if you read this) did you say you've read the 4th book? If so, where did you get it from? I haven't seen it on amazon..............
Deppsdarling - February 28, 2007 04:00 AM (GMT)
This is the first time that I've read a comic book series for adults lol or at least not for kids and I really am enjoying it. I love the way Mr. Nelson brings Gen into the story, she's strong and has her own power. I've got to agree that I think the Duke's using her, but isn't she using him too?
Isn't her name similar to Gueneviere from the King Arthur legends or have I read too many Harlequins? :shistle
Karen - February 28, 2007 05:11 AM (GMT)
Hmmmm
Interesting point about the name Deppsdarling!
nurseanne8 - February 28, 2007 10:05 AM (GMT)
Donna I got the newest installment at a local comic store Keith's Comics-and it is a real comic book about 20 pages cost all of $2.99-the other books were "trade" publications-published after several of the individual comic releases are on the market. The illustrator has changed and the characters look a bit different. I believe Karen has link on the other Rex Mundi thread-but a store that only sells comics should be able to order it for you. Hope that helps. #4 gives a bit more information but like #3 it stops without an "ending" so the series can continue.
MacktheKnife - February 28, 2007 08:38 PM (GMT)
I agree with all the points made - especially that she is the link between the Duke and the Doctor.
In a Catholic ruled Europe, with the Inquisition a powerful force, a woman has risen to a position of power. She has to be one hell of a woman to do that in what would be a very male dominated and orientated society. I just wonder how many faces she has!
Karen - February 28, 2007 10:32 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (MacktheKnife @ Feb 28 2007, 02:38 PM) |
I agree with all the points made - especially that she is the link between the Duke and the Doctor.
In a Catholic ruled Europe, with the Inquisition a powerful force, a woman has risen to a position of power. She has to be one hell of a woman to do that in what would be a very male dominated and orientated society. I just wonder how many faces she has! |
I have to wonder, as we go along and the story unfolds, just how long the Duke will allow a woman to have power?
jeppody - February 28, 2007 11:56 PM (GMT)
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| I have to wonder, as we go along and the story unfolds, just how long the Duke will allow a woman to have power? |
My guess is....Not long!!
He is clearly using her to get information on Juliens acivities.
Hopefully she will catch on sometime soon, before she risks Juliens life much further. :angry:
Anne x
herestoyou - March 1, 2007 02:09 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (jeppody @ Feb 28 2007, 03:56 PM) |
| QUOTE | | I have to wonder, as we go along and the story unfolds, just how long the Duke will allow a woman to have power? |
My guess is....Not long!!
He is clearly using her to get information on Juliens acivities.
Hopefully she will catch on sometime soon, before she risks Juliens life much further. :angry:
Anne x
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I agree, right now she serves a purpose for him, but I also think she's rather intelligent and realizes that he's using her. The question is what will happen once Lorraine doesn't need her anymore and will she able to disentangle herself from him?
nurseanne8 - March 1, 2007 02:31 AM (GMT)
Donna to answer your question I think she will break away from Lorraine because she will be in a dangerous situition once he realizes she still has great loyalty and feelings for Julien-several people on the board have stated that they do not care for Gen but I admire her- she is a gutsy woman ahead of her time-reminds me of Anna in PAOL and she is a survivor-and we do not really know who ruined the relationship of Gen and Julien-maybe Julien's drinking? or lack of interest? or inability to be committed to a relationship with a strong-willed woman?
herestoyou - March 1, 2007 02:58 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (nurseanne8 @ Feb 28 2007, 06:31 PM) |
| Donna to answer your question I think she will break away from Lorraine because she will be in a dangerous situition once he realizes she still has great loyalty and feelings for Julien-several people on the board have stated that they do not care for Gen but I admire her- she is a gutsy woman ahead of her time-reminds me of Anna in PAOL and she is a survivor-and we do not really know who ruined the relationship of Gen and Julien-maybe Julien's drinking? or lack of interest? or inability to be committed to a relationship with a strong-willed woman? |
Oh I agree Anne------I'm glad she's a strong woman, followed her own path. I hope you're right that she will remove herself from Lorraine's influence, but he's becoming so powerful now, similar to Hitler. That's why I'm almost afraid she may end up sacrificing herself to save Julien. Hasn't just about everyone Julien's come in contact with died so far in these books? Yes, I think Julien's drinking and lack of desire to follow the "expected" path contributed to their break up.
Karen - March 1, 2007 03:05 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (nurseanne8 @ Feb 28 2007, 08:31 PM) |
| Donna to answer your question I think she will break away from Lorraine because she will be in a dangerous situition once he realizes she still has great loyalty and feelings for Julien-several people on the board have stated that they do not care for Gen but I admire her- she is a gutsy woman ahead of her time-reminds me of Anna in PAOL and she is a survivor-and we do not really know who ruined the relationship of Gen and Julien-maybe Julien's drinking? or lack of interest? or inability to be committed to a relationship with a strong-willed woman? |
OH Anne! I'm so glad that you said that about Anna in TPAOL!! I thought it was just me "reading" something into the character.
She is gutsy and does what she thinks she needs to do and what she wants to do for herself. Gen doesn't have a child and is a bit freer to do what she wishes, but it's clear that she once loved Julien. I think the way that the RM world is set up will end up crushing her...or trying to.
One of the things that's frustrating the daylights out of me is that we still don't know where Arvid is taking us on this ride of his. LOL We've read what's out there so far and we don't know how this will all tie up. BUT, we have to think that somewhere along the line, the two of them will join forces to fight the bad guys. LOL Over simplified but there ya have it. The interesting thing is seeing how and IF they get there.
nurseanne8 - March 1, 2007 03:09 AM (GMT)
I bet getting "there" will take a long time! Did you read the letter from a fan in the back of #4 apparantely there is an end and the fan hinted at part of it but it was way over my head.
Karen - March 1, 2007 03:46 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (nurseanne8 @ Feb 28 2007, 09:09 PM) |
| I bet getting "there" will take a long time! Did you read the letter from a fan in the back of #4 apparantely there is an end and the fan hinted at part of it but it was way over my head. |
Nope, haven't read that yet.....
MacktheKnife - March 1, 2007 08:08 AM (GMT)
I agree that Gen may well want to leave the Duke eventually - but will he let her? There are so many perspectives to this - if a powerful woman leaves him it could diminish his standing. He may not want her to leave as she knows too much about him, the Duke. It could also damage her reputation to leave the emply of a powerful man. On some ways the outlook could prove to be very bleak for her - though if she really is that powerful I think the Duke had better look out!
nurseanne8 - March 1, 2007 10:55 AM (GMT)
Good points Macktheknife and if and when Julien and Gen join forces he will have problems. I think that Lorraine and Julien know exactly what Gen is up to and are using her-question is does Gen know that they know? Sure she does.
herestoyou - March 2, 2007 12:39 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (nurseanne8 @ Mar 1 2007, 02:55 AM) |
| Good points Macktheknife and if and when Julien and Gen join forces he will have problems. I think that Lorraine and Julien know exactly what Gen is up to and are using her-question is does Gen know that they know? Sure she does. |
Agree! She's no dummy, she knows what she's doing. So, does Julien help her to see that aligning herself with him(Julien) is for the "greater good"? Will Gen. come to realize that her quest for power could end up hurting her country? I'm rooting for the two of them to get together.
Depputante - March 2, 2007 11:19 PM (GMT)
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What purpose does Genevieve play in the Rex Mundi story? What is she after? Where do you think her loyalties are coming from? How does she add to the plot so far?
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Well, I think she's there to confuse our doctor, Juliene. I think her real face will not be such a good one, and she'll be discovered in the end. I think her loyalties would be to the French monarchy, and climbing the social structures.